Hall of Fame Vets Committee Shuts Out Cards

Herzog: Not yet halfway to 75% vote

Twelve men with past ties to the St. Louis Cardinals were among the 42 who all fell short of the Veterans Committee election to the Baseball Hall of Fame.

The National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum's Committee for Baseball Veterans announced balloting results Tuesday for its 2007 election. No one was selected from the nominated group of 42 players, managers, executives and umpires.

Two ballots, one featuring 27 players and another featuring 15 managers, umpires and executives, were considered by the 84-voting member Committee. That group is made up of all living Hall of Famers, Ford C. Frick Award and J.G. Taylor Spink Award winners.

With 38 former players and nine former managers (40 unique individuals) already enshrined in the Hall of Fame, the St. Louis Cardinals had the potential to welcome twelve more additions through this year's Veterans voting.

Nine of the nominated players and three from the managers, umpires and executives list, called the composite list for short, had ties to the Cards. They are noted in bold text in the tables below. The red and green color indicates the trend from the previous voting.

2007 Player Ballot  2005 2003
(avg 6.0 votes/ballot cast) (avg 5.7 votes/ballot) (avg 5.3 votes/ballot)
(62 needed for election)
1  Ron Santo (57 votes, 69.5%) T1 Santo (52, 65.0%) 3 Santo (46, 56.8%)
2  Jim Kaat (52, 63.4%) 4 Kaat (43, 53.8%)
3  Gil Hodges (50, 61%) T1 Hodges (52, 65.0%) 1 Hodges (50, 61.7%)
4  Tony Oliva (47, 57.3%) 3 Oliva (45, 56.3%) 2 Oliva (48, 59.3%)
5  Maury Wills (33, 40.2%) 6 Wills (26, 32.5%) 5 Wills (24, 29.6%)
6  Joe Torre (26, 31.7%) 5 Torre (36, 45.0%) 4 Torre (29, 35.8%)
7  Don Newcombe (17, 20.7%) 19 Newcombe (8, 10.0%) 16 Newcombe (11, 13.6%)
8  Vada Pinson (16, 19.5%) 7 Pinson (23, 28.8%) 6 Pinson (21, 25.9%)
T9  Roger Maris (15, 18.3%) 9 Maris (19, 23.8%) 8 Maris (18, 22.2%)
T9  Lefty O'Doul (15, 18.3%)
T9  Luis Tiant (15, 18.3%) 8 Tiant (20, 25%)
T12  Curt Flood (14, 17.1%) 16 Flood (10, 12.5%) 17 Flood (10, 12.3%)
T12  Al Oliver (14, 17.1%)
T12  Mickey Vernon (14, 17.1%)
T15  Minnie Minoso (12, 14.6%) T13 Minoso (12, 15.0%) T10 Minoso (16, 19.8%)
T15  Cecil Travis (12, 14.6%)
T17  Dick Allen (11, 13.4%) T13 Allen (12, 15.0%) T13 Allen (13, 16.0%)
T17  Marty Marion (11, 13.4%) 10 Marion (16, 20.0%) 9 Marion (17, 21.0%)
19  Joe Gordon (10, 12.2%) 12 Gordon (14, 17.5%) 7 Gordon (19, 23.5%)
20  Ken Boyer (9, 11%) 11 Boyer (15, 18.8%) 15 Boyer (11, 13.6%)
21  Mickey Lolich (8, 9.8%) T17 Lolich (9, 11.3%) T13 Lolich (13, 16.0%)
22  Wes Ferrell (7, 8.5%) T17 Ferrell (9, 11.3%) 15 Ferrell (12, 14.8%)
T23  Sparky Lyle (6, 7.3%) 20 Lyle (7, 8.8%)
T23  Carl Mays (6, 7.3%) T13 Mays (12, 15.0%) T10 (16, 19.8%)
T23  Thurman Munson (6, 7.3%) 24 Munson (2, 2.5%) T23 Munson (4, 4.9%)
26  Rocky Colavito (5, 6.1%)  T22 Colavito (4, 5.0%) 19 Colavito (7, 8.6%)
27  Bobby Bonds (1, 1.2%) T22 Bonds (4, 5.0%) 22 Bonds (5, 6.2%)
21 E. Howard (6, 7.5%) T20 Howard (6, 7.4%)
25 S. Joe Wood (2, 2.5%)
T10 Allie Reynolds (16, 19.8%)
18 Ken R. Williams (8, 9.9%)
T20 Bob Meusel (6, 7.4%)
T23 Ted Kluszewski (4, 4.9%)
25 Mike G. Marshall (3, 3.7%)

As noted in the table above, only two of the nine ex-Cardinals players improved their voting standing over the previous balloting in 2005.

While Curt Flood garnered 17.1% of the vote, up from 12.5%, it is still miles from the 75% needed for induction. Jim Kaat, who pitched for the Cards at the end of his career, made a big jump to second place at 63.4%, compared to the 75% needed.

With 31.7% of the vote, Joe Torre was the next highest-ranking former Cardinal player. While his total was down substantially from his 41.5% total two years ago, Torre is considered a future Hall of Fame lock due to his accomplishments as the manager of the New York Yankees.

Other ex-Cardinals players who saw vote erosion since 2005 are Vada Pinson, Roger Maris, Dick Allen, Bobby Bonds, Marty Marion and Ken Boyer. The latter two especially lost considerable ground since the 2005 balloting. The 2003 voting results are also included for reference.

Ex-Cubs third baseman Ron Santo was the overall leader in 2007 voting, but fell five votes short of election with 69.5% of the vote.

The entire Veterans Committee process will be repeated again for eligible players prior to the next Hall of Fame election, to be held in 2009.

2007 Composite Ballot  2003
(avg 4.2 votes/ballot cast) (avg 4.2 votes/ballot cast)
(61 needed for election)
1  Doug Harvey (52 votes, 64.2%) 1  Doug Harvey (48, 60.8%)
2  Marvin Miller (51, 63%) 3  Marvin Miller (35, 44.3%)
3  Walter O'Malley (36, 44.4%) 2  Walter O'Malley (38, 48.1%)
T4  Buzzie Bavasi (30, 37%) 4  Buzzie Bavasi (34, 43.0%)
T4  Dick Williams (30, 37%) 5  Dick Williams (33, 41.8%)
6  Whitey Herzog (29, 35.8%) 6  Whitey Herzog (25, 31.6%)
7  Bill White (24, 29.6%) T7  Bill White (22, 27.8%)
8  Bowie Kuhn (14, 17.3%) 9  Bowie Kuhn (20, 25.3%)
9  August Busch Jr. (13, 16%) 11  August Busch Jr. (11, 13.9%)
10  Billy Martin (12, 14.8%) T7  Billy Martin (22, 27.8%)
T11  Charles O. Finley (10, 12.3%) T13  Charles Finley (9. 11.4%)
T11  Gabe Paul (10, 12.3%) 10  Gabe Paul (13, 16.5%)
T11  Paul Richards (10, 12.3%) 12  Paul Richards (10, 12.7%)
14  Phil Wrigley (9, 11.1%) T13  Phil Wrigley (9, 11.4%)
15  Harry Dalton (8, 9.9%) 15  Harry Dalton (6, 7.6%) 

There is good news and bad for the three composite list Cardinals representatives. While each garnered a higher percentage of the votes compared to the previous election, none are even halfway to the 75% required for induction.

Whitey Herzog again led the way for the Cardinals contingent with 35.8% of the vote. Former Cardinals first baseman Bill White, included here due to his stint as National League president was next at 29.6%. The club's late owner August Busch, Jr. picked up 16% support.

With votes for the managers, umpires and executives list only scheduled every four years, even with the positive trend, it would seem unlikely that Herzog, White or Busch will be elected under this voting system.

Retired umpire Doug Harvey (64.2%) and former Players Union head Marvin Miller (63%) were the top vote-getters among those on the composite list.

While there is sentiment in some parts to lower the bar in terms of votes required, the prevailing opinion seems to be that these results simply reinforce the validity of the original Hall of Fame voting by sportscasters. As a result, process changes are not likely to be implemented any time soon.



Brian Walton can be reached via email at brwalton@earthlink.net.

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